Post by vanessa on Nov 8, 2015 20:24:27 GMT
OK so I have always liked Pilar and I have always talked with Jackie but never did i have any illusions about wanting to work with them for several reasons..I have my allies already..Jackie I know is spread way too thin...plays too aggressively....and turns on her allies just like that when things don't go her way...sorry girlie when you read this 
..but I am calling it like I see it. I think you and I hit it off but you have a great social style and as you put it the ability to " act all rainbows and roses" even when you are mad at someone...which is a great asset in this game..but I can't pull that off as well..and I see it as a bit fake...just like i saw your making that alliance with Pilar as soon as she won the HOH 
That was really bad timing and I did not like the fact that I was included without being asked previously. The really bad thing here is now this group has been leaked to Adam ( By Pilar of all people 
) but it should never even have been formed in the first place...fortunately I did tell him, but not before Pilar did, so IDK if he was ever worried about my loyalty..if he was he is silly..but you never know. Bottom line is this shit is out there and it is messing up my game. Whether or not Jackie was trying to help me..it is creating chaos and shit so my dear queen you have to go !!! Besides you were up beside Adam and you never had a chance !!!!
It really put me in a bad spot because it made me look as fake as she was. I was minding my own business when i got an IM from jackie that we were in a group with PIlar now. Then she told me Pilar was nomming Michael and Adam and for me to get n the chat with her and push for Penny and charlotte....because maybe she would listen to me. So I did. I wanted to save the boys..plus I honestly thought those noms would be safer for Pilar and she was asking me what to do. Even if I didnt want to save Adam/Michael I would tell anyone that putting up two strong players together pre-jury was a bad move...sure it is nice to watch because it is exciting..but it is not one that is going to be safe for the HOH's longevity in the game. MY advice was to go after less active more UTR players pre-jury because
A: they were unpredictable ..nobody knew what they would do if they were to win
B: they didnt seem to belong to a big group so revenge would not be an issue
C: they were in fact actually the only two people that were not keen on keeping Pilar the very day before ( which is true and would speak volumes to me if I was HOH )
D: now that jury is here they could become the pawn that everyone wants to take to the end
IN the event that Pilar was adamant in going after a huge target this early in the game I said well why not put one of her guys ( michael or adam up ) beside one of the girls ( penny or charlotte ) and BD one of the guys if veto is played. Pilar stuck to her guns and said she wanted to put the two guys up together. I told her what I thought would happen in that scenario;
One would win veto : check
One would win votes: soon to be checked ( i hope )
and she would be stuck making a third nom and have 2 huge threats coming after her.
The girl didnt listen.
To make it worse she went to Adam and told him that the three of us were in a chat ( jackie van and her ) or an alliance..IDK why she would do that if she was smart ? It turned out being a great move for Adam and I because it gave me the ammo I needed to turn people on Jackie and to get PIlar to nom Jackie instead of Aisha who may have been tough to get votes against.
I know Pilar leaked it..but I told Pilar I think jackie did it and that it put us in real danger so now jackie needs to go..right before renoms..oops...Adam was working her hard at the same time and offered her a safety deal if he won hoh as long as jackie went up instead of Aisha. Adam is a miracle worker and I dont mind sticking my neck in a noose for someone I really care about so this week may end well..but next week my ass may be in a sling.
Pilar ran to Penny and Charlotte and told them that I was pushing for them as noms. WTF Pilar ?
Now I can't trust someone I was going to try to help. Oh well at least I have a reason to nom her without exposing my alliance with michael /adam. I suspect PIlar didnt trust me because of my association with Jackie and that damn chat so Jackie had to go...and PIlar will have to go soon to I think.
..but I am calling it like I see it. I think you and I hit it off but you have a great social style and as you put it the ability to " act all rainbows and roses" even when you are mad at someone...which is a great asset in this game..but I can't pull that off as well..and I see it as a bit fake...just like i saw your making that alliance with Pilar as soon as she won the HOH 
That was really bad timing and I did not like the fact that I was included without being asked previously. The really bad thing here is now this group has been leaked to Adam ( By Pilar of all people 
) but it should never even have been formed in the first place...fortunately I did tell him, but not before Pilar did, so IDK if he was ever worried about my loyalty..if he was he is silly..but you never know. Bottom line is this shit is out there and it is messing up my game. Whether or not Jackie was trying to help me..it is creating chaos and shit so my dear queen you have to go !!! Besides you were up beside Adam and you never had a chance !!!!It really put me in a bad spot because it made me look as fake as she was. I was minding my own business when i got an IM from jackie that we were in a group with PIlar now. Then she told me Pilar was nomming Michael and Adam and for me to get n the chat with her and push for Penny and charlotte....because maybe she would listen to me. So I did. I wanted to save the boys..plus I honestly thought those noms would be safer for Pilar and she was asking me what to do. Even if I didnt want to save Adam/Michael I would tell anyone that putting up two strong players together pre-jury was a bad move...sure it is nice to watch because it is exciting..but it is not one that is going to be safe for the HOH's longevity in the game. MY advice was to go after less active more UTR players pre-jury because
A: they were unpredictable ..nobody knew what they would do if they were to win
B: they didnt seem to belong to a big group so revenge would not be an issue
C: they were in fact actually the only two people that were not keen on keeping Pilar the very day before ( which is true and would speak volumes to me if I was HOH )
D: now that jury is here they could become the pawn that everyone wants to take to the end
IN the event that Pilar was adamant in going after a huge target this early in the game I said well why not put one of her guys ( michael or adam up ) beside one of the girls ( penny or charlotte ) and BD one of the guys if veto is played. Pilar stuck to her guns and said she wanted to put the two guys up together. I told her what I thought would happen in that scenario;
One would win veto : check
One would win votes: soon to be checked ( i hope )
and she would be stuck making a third nom and have 2 huge threats coming after her.
The girl didnt listen.
To make it worse she went to Adam and told him that the three of us were in a chat ( jackie van and her ) or an alliance..IDK why she would do that if she was smart ? It turned out being a great move for Adam and I because it gave me the ammo I needed to turn people on Jackie and to get PIlar to nom Jackie instead of Aisha who may have been tough to get votes against.
I know Pilar leaked it..but I told Pilar I think jackie did it and that it put us in real danger so now jackie needs to go..right before renoms..oops...Adam was working her hard at the same time and offered her a safety deal if he won hoh as long as jackie went up instead of Aisha. Adam is a miracle worker and I dont mind sticking my neck in a noose for someone I really care about so this week may end well..but next week my ass may be in a sling.
Pilar ran to Penny and Charlotte and told them that I was pushing for them as noms. WTF Pilar ?
Now I can't trust someone I was going to try to help. Oh well at least I have a reason to nom her without exposing my alliance with michael /adam. I suspect PIlar didnt trust me because of my association with Jackie and that damn chat so Jackie had to go...and PIlar will have to go soon to I think.
