Jury Discussion

[aisha]

lol i just wrote up a big discussion post that got deleted bc my wifi sucks lol yay lol

[nicole]

sooo can you do dice

[Queen Elsa]

I'm dragging you to go back in the house

[aisha]

kat ihy


penny thinks that the final four is very evenly matched but i'm strongly inclined to disagree.

zach is easily the best player left. he's awesome and he has my vote on lock if he can make finals. this isn't my bias towards him (i think the fact that we WERENT nominated together until final 5 when my signature was literally us for weeks is hilarious) he's just a strategic and socially sound player and a good guy in general.

penny is easily the worst. she really thinks that taking me out will win this game for her - and yes, kudos to her for getting me out, but playing a transparent middle man game all season and being barely relevant is too heavy in my mind to reward her for finally starting to play at final 5. she thinks she's done a lot better than she has, which is kinda sad, but i guess everyone is delusional about their gameplay at some point (in my dr right before f5 hoh i said i thought i should have an easy ride to f4 lol)

the 2nd and 3rd are kinda a toss up to me. michael and kevin both have pros and cons and idk who i prefer at this point. i think i wont decide unless theyre the final 2 which i think is unlikely. but for the sake of a full discussion:

michael is good, and he's won a lot of comps, but his gameplay has not been very good beyond that. he was strong in the beginning, but his emotions started getting the best of him and his blowups were way more trouble than they were worth. at jury phase i planned on cutting him (i gave him nomination points during international round) but his comp strength was invaluable as an ally despite having to frequently regain ground and cover our asses after his numerous blowups. honestly, his personality is what detracts from his gameplay - and i love the guy, genuinely, but it makes it hard for me to want to see him win when i saved his ass several times.

kevin is also good, way better than yall give him credit for. pilar, you saying he cant think for himself just means he couldnt think the way YOU wanted him to think. we had a deal since day 1 and we were very very close, constantly swapping info, especially when it came to the side war the early part of jury phase was. now, i do think if zach/michael/i hadn't been able to regain the ground we lost with jackie/adam/vanessa, he may have just let me go with the rest, but that's not what happened and it opened his options up - options that included me. fast forward hoh was a blur, but i had gotten in his ear enough and you, pili, had annoyed him enough that he was ready to go rogue (and by go rogue i mean help me out lmao ) do i think it was exactly smart for him? no, i don't, but it at least garnered him some favor with the rest of the cast for standing up to you (who was seen as the leader of the other side)

overall i think we have a good endgame ahead of us, because at this point its every man for himself. everyones best bet is taking penny to finals, but we'll see. i think the next two evictions will probably be just as ~dramatic~ as mine.

i'm excited to see how it plays out. love you all, glad to see you again

[pilar]

No, Aisha deserved this the most.

[aisha]

i deserved what to be evicted wow thanks pili lol

[Ika / Diva]

Aisha you played a great game I really enjoyed our talks and watching the cameras following you around.  You ran this house like the true Queen that you are ........  


Now I can officially pass you a big one... puff puff 

[pilar]

Deserved to win LOL

I should probably type full sentences instead of being lazy.

That should have read "Fuck them, NO! Aisha was the most deserving to win"

But yeah I knew when Kevin refused to nominate you, which made the most logical sense, there had been a deal for a long time. I was looking out for him, but I think it only hurt his game cause he would have probably beat me in the end cause my social game was sub par

[Queen Elsa]

Obviously, I'm the only one that sees that Michael has played pretty well starting from Day 1, so I don't know about his blow ups and emotions after I left. You guys will need to sell to me why he shouldn't win. Aisha, I thought you and him played the game hard from the beginning which is why I would've liked to see the two of you in the finals. Kevin and Penny, I thought just picked up on their game too late and Zach.. well like I said before, he is a very sly player, he could get my vote if he does well in the finals; he seems to be a good talker too.

[aisha]

anyone who wants to hit this blunt with me and ika hmu

also pilar no actually zach and i had a talk about how if you made finals we wouldve both voted you to win, as much as you were a pain you really controlled your side of the game and were very strategically sound.

[Queen Elsa]

Dec 1, 2015 23:29:46 GMT pilar said:

Deserved to win LOL

I should probably type full sentences instead of being lazy.

That should have read "Fuck them, NO! Aisha was the most deserving to win"

But yeah I knew when Kevin refused to nominate you, which made the most logical sense, there had been a deal for a long time. I was looking out for him, but I think it only hurt his game cause he would have probably beat me in the end cause my social game was sub par

I would've voted for you if you were against Kevin.  You're social game was at least more decent with me then Kevin's was. lol

[pilar]

I see Penny and Zach similar in the way that neither wanted to really make themselves a target, and then Penny chose to align with me cause she knew I would be taken out before her, and it would only advance her. Socially idk how much she connected with yall, but I talked strategy with her the last week, and I felt comfortable enough to give up on the tiebreaker veto round that she won, so we could both be safe.

[aisha]

dont get me wrong jackie, michael was one of the best players before your eviction... after your eviction tho, he was a mess that fussed at everyone and really did nothing to help himself. im not saying hes been a bad player, hes just been toooooo all over the place. if youre gonna be an ott mess, then own that shit like vanessa did lmao dont be ottn one day and cpp the next. its too much.

[pilar]

Michael would go out of his way to message me just to start a fight. It made no sense strategically, but I knew me being against him riled him up, so it was fun. Socially he had great ties with a lot of people, something I could do not do, but I know the way he spoke to people really annoyed others. Like he accused Jmac and Zach of shit, and if they were in a position to flip, then they would have. (Well Jmac already did but you know)


ALSO Did Kevin really rely on a bootlist the round Jmac left? Or did you convince him to vote him out Aisha?

[Queen Elsa]

Dec 1, 2015 23:33:53 GMT aisha said:

dont get me wrong jackie, michael was one of the best players before your eviction... after your eviction tho, he was a mess that fussed at everyone and really did nothing to help himself. im not saying hes been a bad player, hes just been toooooo all over the place. if youre gonna be an ott mess, then own that shit like vanessa did lmao dont be ottn one day and cpp the next. its too much.

lmao so him voting me out lead to him being an OTT mess?  hahahahhahahahaha  

but yeah, I thought he was a strong player before I left too.